“Latino Oral Histories” exceeded my expectations. I chose to take this class for several reasons: my positionality as a Vietnamese American, a patchy understanding of the Vietnam War, and an academic interest in comparative ethnic studies. I think I came into the class perhaps a little overly self-assured: I had just finished a SURP in which I interviewed my grandmother about her flight from Vietnam right before the Fall of Saigon, and thus felt confident in the prospect of conducting oral histories, as well as somewhat knowledgeable of alternative understandings of the Vietnam War. I had a perhaps simplistic anti-war politics, but did not expect it to get in the way. I didn’t identify as Latino, but had taken a couple Chican@ studies classes before this one.
I did not, however, have any previous significant relationship with a veteran, of Vietnam or otherwise. I do have a friend from high school who joined the Reserves and did a tour in Afghanistan, but we haven’t talked much about his experiences. Thus emotionally and intellectually distanced, I felt somewhat alienated by and critical of mainstream “Veteran Appreciation” rhetoric, which was coded in what I perceived as imperialistic patriotism and an uncritical glorification of war. Looking back, I think I had a somewhat elitist anti-war stance, in which I, with my liberal education, thought I “knew better” than to fall for American patriotism. I, of course, did not articulate this, because I sympathized with those who chose to go off to war for lack of other options; I had somewhat of an understanding of the systematic racism the pushed many poor people of color into the military. Sympathy, however, is laced more with inadvertent pity than with critical understanding. Thus, I am not sure if I truly empathized with them.
Conducting the interviews with the two Latino Vietnam veterans radically changed my perspective, challenging my self-assured politics and invoking a greater sense of empathy. I think initially I was wary of the prospect of interviewing a veteran who had been trained to vilify and kill Vietnamese people, who might have crossed paths with members of my extended family. How would this veteran view me? Would I invoke memories of those Viet Cong enemies? However, my fears were not justified. The interviews were intimate but not threatening; the veterans retained their composure, only sharing the memories with which they felt comfortable, and I listened with the respect due to an older person of greater experience and wisdom.
I felt honored that the veterans shared their stories with me. I was struck by their intimate association with death, by the fragile miracle of their survival, by the lasting effects of war on their psyche and well being. I realized that there was a way to feel heartfelt respect and admiration for these veterans as individuals, without compromising my pacifist politics.
Initially, I was intimidated by the prospect of having to represent these veterans, of integrating their oral histories and my historical analysis into an accessible narrative. I appreciated the idea to place their stories on a web page, to share with a larger public. Although I eventually want to become a professor and go into academia, I acknowledge the problematic of knowledge circulation that does not breach the “ivory tower” of the university—especially of research that purports to strive for “social justice.” Furthermore, I critique the paternalistic need to “give voice to the voiceless;” the veterans are not voiceless. They do not “need” me. Rather, in this mutually beneficial relationship, I feel grateful for the chance to listen to their narratives. Thus, I felt the burden of representing their narratives “correctly”—or rather, in a meaningful way, that respected their self-presentation but which integrated my own critical race, gender, and political analysis.
I liked the idea of organizing the web site by topic rather than by veteran. I do not know how I would have condensed the veterans’ two hour long interviews into three pages in a way that adequately represented their whole story, without leaving out relevant aspects or making unilateral editing choices. The topic organization relieved some of the pressure of having to narrate an “overarching story,” although the implicit directive to choose the most “compelling” quotes initially left me a bit unsettled. How does one define “compelling”? Most shocking? Most exotic? Most relevant? Compelling to whom? An audience with little knowledge of the Vietnam War? Anti-war demonstrators? Other military veterans?
In the end, however, I focused on parts that sounded unique, were rich with detail, and which resonated with human connection. I wanted to present the veterans in an honest but positive light, in a way that neither glorified nor vilified their actions, but which retained an understanding of Latinos’ uneven position in U.S. society and an implicit critique of U.S. imperialism abroad. However, I also wanted to evoke empathy from anti-war protestors—like myself—who may unwittingly blame the individual caught in the military industrial complex instead of the system of war itself. Thus, I was drawn to the moments of human connection, which revealed the interviewees not as stock veterans but rather as complex individuals—with intimate relationships with their families, partners, friends, and comrades—who were forever changed by the violence they witnessed, who may still be haunted by memories and guilt, and who may never feel comfortable in civilian society again.
The moving conversations that took place in the interviews reflected the productive discussions that we had in class. I really appreciated this class dynamic. This was perhaps the best discussion space of any class that I’ve taken at the Claremont Colleges: each person spoke without prompting, students listened attentively and built off their peers’ comments, and no one dominated the conversation. I liked the class readings—especially Gods Go Begging and “The Archive of Desire”—and was very moved by all the documentaries. “Taking the Hill” was especially emotive; the juxtaposition of shots of contemporary Vietnam—which I had just visited this past summer—with the violent narrative of a Vietnam War veteran—who spoke of killing Vietnamese and abusing his family—really hit me emotionally. However, I found it hard to vilify the narrator, and was uncomfortable with the way other students seemed to write off the role of religion in these people’s lives. I think it is easy to critique zealous Christianity from a distance, and harder to empathize with those who cling to it out of a desperate need to make sense of their lives and make peace with their actions. I appreciate this class for opening my mind to this more nuanced realization.
Overall, “Latino Oral Histories” taught me greater empathy, complicated my understanding of war, and re-emphasized the importance of human conversation. I thank my fellow students and the Profé for this life-changing experience.